But in the event of adultery, the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time with women. Why? Because the woman possesses the weapon of seduction. She is the one who takes her clothes off, cuts them short, acts flirtatious, puts on make-up and powder, and goes on the streets dallying. She is the one wearing a short dress, lifting it up, lowering it down, then a look, then a smile, then a word, then a greeting, then a chat, then a date, then a meeting, then a crime, then Long Bay Jail, then comes a merciless judge who gives you 65years.

But the whole disaster, who started it? The Al-Rafihi scholar says in one of his literary works, he says: If I come across a crime of rape - kidnap and violation of honour - I would discipline the man and teach him a lesson in morals, and I would order the woman be arrested and jailed for life.

Why, Rafihi? He says, because if she hadn't left the meat uncovered, the cat wouldn't have snatched it. If you take a kilo of meat, and you don't put it in the fridge, or in the pot, or in the kitchen, but you put in on a plate and placed it outside in the yard. Then you have a fight with the neighbour because his cats ate the meat. Then (inaudible). Right or not?

If one puts uncovered meat out in the street, or on the footpath, or in the garden, or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, then the cats come and eat it, is it the fault of the cat or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem! If it was covered the cat wouldn't have. It would have circled around it and circled around it, then given up and gone.

If she was in her room, in her house, wearing her hijab, being chaste, the disasters wouldn't have happened. The woman possesses the weapon of seduction and temptation. That's why Satan says about the woman, "You are half a soldier. You are my messenger to achieve my needs. You are the last weapon I would use to smash the head of the finest of men. There are a few men that I use a lot of things with, but they never heed me. But you? Oh, you are my best weapon."

What's to be said. Fuckwits are fuckwits are fuckwits, no matter what their creed. Although having a religion behind them gives them more surety in their fuckwit-ism.

Yeah, between the pope, this guy (and others) we'll end up with people either side of THEIR religious devide to start killing each other and we will be left standing in the middle (if we aint killed in the process).

Yeah, its been happening for ages, but now it is happening in places I (and others I know ) live in and I am pissed about it

I never ignored it ya bastard at the moment, seeing as it is happening in the country I am in I could have been in a position to do something about it (but I am leaving). The thing is with religious types in general the more you react to their shit the more they preach/do it and it inflames the situation.

How many times have I stood up for immagrants (usual non-white ones) or Muslims or Maoris or Aboriginies in arguements in this country? To fucking many times. I have been to rallys for workers rights here etc.

Have you gone to any rallys or signed anything to help a cause you believe in in USA? I know you have argued the point against co-workers. You are at the root of half the problem where you are mate, fucking DC.....at least you don't live in the Bilble Belt lol