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SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.
US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.

Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.

The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.

But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.

Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.

Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.

Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.

"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor.

Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15 ... 62,00.html

Author:	Snuff [ Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:46 pm ]
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Quote: SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans. US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years. Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution. The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity. But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock. Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre. However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours, But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss. During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death. Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved. Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts. Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage. "The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor. Source: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15 ... 62,00.html cool!

Author:	Krag [ Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:23 pm ]
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Quote: SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs Well it's about time.

Author:	Rob [ Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:24 pm ]
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FU-CKING-HELL! Did they not see Resident Evil? We're all doomed! Goddamn scientists!

Author:	gappman [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:43 am ]
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yeah god damn nature tampering bastards

Author:	gappman [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:01 am ]
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Quote: However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours, that wouldn't work unless the body was cryopreserved (like really low temperature -80 C), and I guess at this stage, the complexity of that process on any sort of multicellular organism really means it aint an option yet. Mammalian embryos and the like can be preserved in this way but the efficiancy of this is not 100%. Even when I thaw and then re-freeze my bacterial stocks, I lose 50% of the amont of viable cells that I started with. Does that mean if multi cellular organism was cryopreserved in the same manner, 50% organism would die? I dont really know where or how muuch cryopreservation research is going on with an end point idea of preserving hmans in this way. Ok getting back to the reason why the new technique wouldnt work on a long time frame. The clinically dead tissue (although still alive and viable just a few hours after death) would deteriorate rapidly due to induction of different cell death pathways, as well as microbial attack due to the immune system of the host being dormant. Sounds like a cool concept for the use they have developed it for, although this will only be available to the US armed forces in the near future, so gives them an unfair advantage at war against anyone they don't like cos they are different or threatening to someone elses source of oil that they want for themselves lol....... After living here for a little while, I have really come to terms with why oil is so important to the american economy and society....... no one walks anywhere...... not even across the street to the shop on the other side...... why walk when you can drive right? And public transport aint very flash either, I guess based purely on the attitude, nah just drive there instead lol........

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Author:	Rob [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:21 am ]
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Quote: Even when I thaw and then re-freeze my bacterial stocks, I lose 50% of the amont of viable cells that I started with. Does that mean if multi cellular organism was cryopreserved in the same manner, 50% organism would die?........ I think what Gapp meant was socks not stocks and Gapp,if you thawed those socks everything would die! Sorry I coludn't resist that,I blame Mr H. Hill,but who knows?

Author:	gappman [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:37 am ]
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foooooott fungus

Author:	Rob [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:09 am ]
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Quote: foooooott fungus Dude, I can't really make fun there! So your(Gapp) basically saying 'Na' right.They are talking shit or what?Sorry your words are to wordy for this drunk fellow.

Author:	gappman [ Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:43 am ]
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Quote: Dude, I can't really make fun there! So your(Gapp) basically saying 'Na' right.They are talking shit or what?Sorry your words are to wordy for this drunk fellow. I dont know anything about that research apart from what was stated in the article snuff posted..... kinda interesting, and believable, and really no reason why it wouldnt work for a human if it works for a dog. However, there could be brain damage type symptoms involved taht are more detectable in a human.... you know sometimes it might be hard to diagnose that sort of malarky in an animal that doesn't really communicate with humans to the same level other humans communicate lol..... getting all wordy again so I will shut the fuck up already lol...... It might be full of shit, but it might be for real.... wouldnt surprise me..... but the preservation of the body using that technique for more than just a few hours at a time would be pretty well impossible in my opinion..... but I aint a human physiologist lol... I just have a basic understanding of cells I guess and why and how they die etc....... all good..... chur chur..... back to my plants

Author:	Kev [ Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:13 pm ]
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And to think that when I first met Gapper at the Stomach (Mindshaft practice), I thought he was a big scary bogan!

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